tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post4260857391797502066..comments2023-07-13T05:34:24.383-04:00Comments on I am a Paladin...: The Dilemma of Holy PaladinsHPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13930585528119337753noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-42876183526750751302009-07-22T15:04:00.259-04:002009-07-22T15:04:00.259-04:00Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you. ...Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you. I don't know what's more maddening, the interminable stream of holy paladin nerfs, or the fact that almost every paladin blogger on the planet sucks them up and tries to spin them like they're not so bad. But it often seems like low self-esteem is a class trait of ours, so we take it. <br /><br />Much as I never thought I would say Wanderernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-73888010714780083012009-07-21T13:04:45.973-04:002009-07-21T13:04:45.973-04:00@B-Rab: Shamans WERE calling for a nerf to holy pa...@B-Rab: Shamans WERE calling for a nerf to holy paladin mana regen to try and buff their own class. You can pretend that isn't the case but that is just the case. THIS IS A PALADIN SITE, why would I write about shamans? Use some common sense. If I'm some crybaby, then all of you shamans are worse crybabies for QQing about all your class flaws that 3.2 is trying to address. Kettle, meet HPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762532904788031568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-45018284975467658792009-07-21T11:08:23.338-04:002009-07-21T11:08:23.338-04:00I can understand where HP is coming from. 3.2 is a...I can understand where HP is coming from. 3.2 is a real whack in the nuts for healadins, and all we're getting to compensate that is a change to SS and a dubious change to BoL (dubious if only because BoL is an expensive, situational ability). If Blizz is going to make healing harder, give me something to make up for it- like rework FoL or make HL's casttime shorter.<br />This post said Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-19992001791576963092009-07-21T09:59:55.266-04:002009-07-21T09:59:55.266-04:00I'm ok with you qq'ing as long as you leav...I'm ok with you qq'ing as long as you leave out pointing fingers at resto shaman qqing about you. We have our own problems, like going oom while doing less effective/overhealing than other healers, or actually not even having a nich. You are better at mt healing, everyone else is better at raid healing. Wow, sorry, normally I'm not such a crybaby -- in fact, I was ok with everythingB-Rabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16356592794812408568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-44413012300530096222009-07-21T08:18:31.086-04:002009-07-21T08:18:31.086-04:00Funny that I get so many "It's not fair t...Funny that I get so many "It's not fair that you got plate and we don't" comments from clothies.<br />Even in Heroics, if the tank dies, my plate doesn't mean shit.<br /><br />The only benefit you get from wearing plate, is that you are not caught in the mass brawls that occur when Cloth loot drops in a raid, and as we don't share the same gear as other classes, why *vlad*noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-15777950110261521642009-07-09T13:07:47.327-04:002009-07-09T13:07:47.327-04:00As a holy pally myself, I can definitely relate to...As a holy pally myself, I can definitely relate to everything you've said. I went to my first 25 ulduar the other night as the *only* holy paladin in the raid and on Ignis I was told to *raid heal.* I even argued privately with my gm about it because paladins are, as you stated yourself, single target direct healers, not raid healers. And his answer was that a priest/druid combination on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-44226782152174833812009-07-02T14:19:28.031-04:002009-07-02T14:19:28.031-04:00God damn it reading this is very discouraging, as ...God damn it reading this is very discouraging, as a new player, playing a holy pally. Now that I think about it, I havent seen one holy pally the whole time ive been playing, there all ret.rntrndrwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-82932694219695094922009-06-26T08:46:06.749-04:002009-06-26T08:46:06.749-04:00I agree with most of what was said in thi post. I...I agree with most of what was said in thi post. I've even dabbled in the Holy/Prot build to buff FoL with as much +Healing as possible to see if it would be a viable option.<br /><br />According to my spreadsheet the numbers and cast times should be there to support FoL spamming in raids, BUT losing 8% crit just by switching builds takes it's toll, and as you mentioned it causes HUUGE Arelion - Arathor-USnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-72875158121545645222009-06-01T22:49:29.975-04:002009-06-01T22:49:29.975-04:00@harpysnest: I actually don't know much of pre-BC ...@harpysnest: I actually don't know much of pre-BC holy paladins outside of 2nd hand information, I confess. Thanks for letting me know otherwise but I still feel maybe the root of all the prejudice started in pre BC and has persisted despite obvious changes in paladins since then. And no, I don't think priests are evil but tbh I always seem to find a bad egg priest QQing about paladins some way HPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762532904788031568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-21968044363186387542009-06-01T20:43:58.984-04:002009-06-01T20:43:58.984-04:00@pallyheals
No, I DO think you are being an ass.
...@pallyheals<br /><br />No, I DO think you are being an ass.<br /><br />Obviously you don't pay attention to my glyphs or my spec. Duh, I use HS to heal. <br /><br />Do I have to tell you exactly how I heal on top of it? Did I even say HS was worthless? So you use HS on every CD, it will be your #1 heal?<br /><br />Not being an ass, just tired of people not reading and going straight to e-dickHPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762532904788031568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-81869566620492933302009-06-01T13:37:31.365-04:002009-06-01T13:37:31.365-04:00I don't think you play your class well if you thin...I don't think you play your class well if you think Holy Shock is worthless. I think the problem with most pally healers in a raid environment is that the number of buttons you use is small and simple, but the situational awareness and keeping things like beacon and SS up became pointless in naxx, you could just stand there and heal. I remember first heading into naxx 25 and people saying that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-38865689835691268482009-06-01T12:49:06.872-04:002009-06-01T12:49:06.872-04:00/soothes
/hands you a cookie
Holy pallys are cur.../soothes<br /><br />/hands you a cookie<br /><br />Holy pallys are currently "OP" in PvP, though, so I think until that changes, we're absolutely boned. <br /><br />You are abolutely correct, though. I happily holy pally'd for four years, starting with hardcore raiding in vanilla WoW. It took Wrath to break paladin healing for me. Even when I survived 5 mans and heroics and got to raiding, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-27438629411048665052009-06-01T01:59:49.565-04:002009-06-01T01:59:49.565-04:00hmmm.. I think sections 1 through 5 can stand alon...hmmm.. I think sections 1 through 5 can stand alone as a some sort of introductory guide to holy pally for people who don't know the class dynamics. It actually made sense to me, and that's saying a lot. I knew int > mp5, only because my buddy told me, but I didn't know why. and I always like to know the whys because i'm Curious George.Jonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14750329810568222503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4319814211958013827.post-81357244236483047332009-05-31T21:18:31.267-04:002009-05-31T21:18:31.267-04:00Despite being an evil holy priest type, I do think...Despite being an evil holy priest type, I do think something is currently wrong with paladin healing. Our one remaining holy paladin couldn't raid tonight so we did a couple of hardmodes, Iron Council included with 2 priests (1 holy and 1 disc) and a shaman covering the tank healing. So if tank healing can be done by all the healing classes, surely raid healing to an acceptable level should Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com